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  this week's bible reading leviticus chap 19 - 21 - my opening remarks

  by user100 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so.. some asshole visits another asshole but a mob erupts and wants to rape the visiting asshole.. the host asshole offers his daughter and the visiting asshole's concubine to appease the mob.. sure enough.. the concubine ends up gang raped and murdered.

  in the morning the visiting asshole loads her up on his donkey, takes her home, dismembers her body into 12 pieces and sends it to all the tribes to incite war.. so an army of 22,000 is formed, some prick goes and asks jehovah if they should go and destroy the gang raping mob.. and jehovah says 'yes.. do it.

  they go to fight and loose all 22,000 die.

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  Island Man

  "I don't mean to be picky island man...... but, is it possible for a woman or in Lot's case two women
  to "rape" a drunk man?"

  You're not being picky at all. I don't think it's possible. That's one of the reasons why I don't believe the story is true but is just a piece of false propaganda devised by the writer(s) of Genesis to tarnish the image of the Moabites and the Ammonites. How do you make the Ammonites and Moabites inherently degenerate when they're the descendants of righteous Lot, without tarnishing Righteous Lot; and how do you do it in a way that cannot be disproved? Simple: You say these nations were the product of an incestuous relationship between Lot and his daughters - but righteous Lot is not to be blames because he was drugged and raped by his daughters. And because these incestuous relations happened in the isolated mountains away from anyones sight, no one can come forward and disprove the writer's claims. See how that works?
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  The Watchtower organization's crime against humanity

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
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  who are the real heroes of society?.

  are they not the people who are doctors and nurses and teachers and firemen and policemen and counselors and humanitarians?.

  because of the watchtower organization, we are missing generations of those kinds of heroes who will not exist (but could have) because jehovah's witnesses destroyed them by convincing millions of it's members those professions are meaningless and unimportant for them to pursue.

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  Island Man

  Thank God they didn't succeed with Michael Jackson!
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  The WTBTS and Elders have too many stupid rules!

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hated ministry book bags.i hated coming out of my home with the book bags looking like i was going to a seminar.so,i starting going to the ministry school and sunday bible meetings holding only the required books for that day in my hand.. for the sunday meetings,i would just carry the song book,bible and watchtower magazine in my hand.

  no book bag!

  for the ministry school,i would just carry just what necessary for the evening.

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  Island Man

  I've made up my mind that if I ever were to start growing a beard and an elder were to ask me:

  "Uh, what's that on your face? Is that dirt?"

  My response would be:

  "No. It's called beard - you know, that thing that Jesus and all the faithful Jewish prophets had but which the pagan Egyptians refused to have. . ."
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  this week's bible reading leviticus chap 19 - 21 - my opening remarks

  by user100 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so.. some asshole visits another asshole but a mob erupts and wants to rape the visiting asshole.. the host asshole offers his daughter and the visiting asshole's concubine to appease the mob.. sure enough.. the concubine ends up gang raped and murdered.

  in the morning the visiting asshole loads her up on his donkey, takes her home, dismembers her body into 12 pieces and sends it to all the tribes to incite war.. so an army of 22,000 is formed, some prick goes and asks jehovah if they should go and destroy the gang raping mob.. and jehovah says 'yes.. do it.

  they go to fight and loose all 22,000 die.

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  Island Man

  Is it just me, or does that bible account seem eerily similar to the account of the men surrounding Lot's house wanting to rape the angels? It has been said by one bible expert that this story is actually a bit of false propaganda designed to paint the people in that area as being as vile as the Sodomites, thus the story was deliberately written to mimic the account with Lot.

  It has also been said that the story of Lot's daughters drunking him and raping him is also a bit of propaganda designed to tarnish the image of the Moabites and the Ammonites - the nations supposedly born out of the incestuous relations mentioned in the account. This seems to make sense as such an account provides no real spiritual benefit at all. I can think of no reason why such sordid details of how the Moabites and Ammonites came into being is of any spiritual benefit. It only makes sense to share such info if the motive is the tarnish the image of those nations.
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  this week's bible reading leviticus chap 19 - 21 - my opening remarks

  by user100 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so.. some asshole visits another asshole but a mob erupts and wants to rape the visiting asshole.. the host asshole offers his daughter and the visiting asshole's concubine to appease the mob.. sure enough.. the concubine ends up gang raped and murdered.

  in the morning the visiting asshole loads her up on his donkey, takes her home, dismembers her body into 12 pieces and sends it to all the tribes to incite war.. so an army of 22,000 is formed, some prick goes and asks jehovah if they should go and destroy the gang raping mob.. and jehovah says 'yes.. do it.

  they go to fight and loose all 22,000 die.

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  Island Man

  "Another comment was.. homosexuality is so bad that the host asshole would give up his daughter rather than having some dude get raped"

  Holy shit! Did we attend the same congregation? Are you in the Caribbean by any chance?
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  The Watchtower organization's crime against humanity

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who are the real heroes of society?.

  are they not the people who are doctors and nurses and teachers and firemen and policemen and counselors and humanitarians?.

  because of the watchtower organization, we are missing generations of those kinds of heroes who will not exist (but could have) because jehovah's witnesses destroyed them by convincing millions of it's members those professions are meaningless and unimportant for them to pursue.

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  Island Man

  Isn't that a fulfillment of bible prophecy? LOL.

  ". . .The resources of the nations YOU people will eat. . ." - Isaiah 61:6

  “‘And I will rock all the nations, and the desirable things of all the nations must come in. . ." - Haggai 2:7

  
  
  
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  Wife is FOR SURE waking up

  by cappytan in

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  2. friends

  well, this is a new development.

  she broached the subject of ttatt tonight.

  said i was right about the flood.

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  Island Man

  It seems like she's waking up but is still battling with the cult phobia of apostate information. And as another poster mentioned she might relapse into cult-mode. I don't know if you've already tried this but I think it might be helpful:

  Why not watch a movie about someone who is in the grip of a cult or some other psychologically manipulative authority that uses fear of the opposition to keep the person ignorant of the truth and in continued mental enslavement to the cult or authority.

  Without bringing up the subject of Watchtower, get her to see Watchtower's tactic of using anti-apostate propaganda, mirrored in some other religious cult. Planet of the apes is an example of a movie that has a parallel. The ape rulers enforced a forbidden zone where all the apes were forbidden from going because they ape rulers didn't want the apes finding relics of past human civilization which would have proved that humans, contrary to what the ape rulers were saying, were intelligent beings. This mirrors Watchtower's policy of creating a forbidden zone - apostate sites - to prevent current JWs from finding out the untruths and misdeeds of the organization that led former members to leave.

  So once you get her to see other manipulative authorities in movies, using censorship and fear of dissidents to control information and maintain control of those they have mentally enslaved, that should help her to think that Watchtower has perhaps done the same to her by having her afraid of visiting apostate sites.
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  I've been asked to give a public talk (should I)

  by darth frosty in

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  2. friends

  a friend of mine who is planing his fade, has just been made talk coordinator.

  so he calls me and ask 'do i want to give a talk at his hall?

  ' he knows my situation and lurks on this board himself.

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  Island Man

  Here's an idea for you to consider:

  Let us help you develop the talk!

  Give us the theme and the outline and let us give you ideas on how you can use the material to covertly share TTATT or cause cognitive dissonance that can help to wake up some dubs.

  You have been given a wonderful opportunity to help wake up dubs in a subtle way. Use it!

  LOL. I just realized I have been reading a thread that's years old!
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  If this isn't the truth, then what is our hope?

  by Gigi2121 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm new here but not new to researching and questioning the jw beliefs.

  i have quite a story.... one that's been haunting me for awhile... but first, i'd like to hear what people have to say about this topic question, please.. -gigi.

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  Island Man

  The truth is, no one has the whole truth.

  The truth is, we may never know the whole truth.

  The truth is, we don't have to know the whole truth.

  The truth is, the universe does not owe you the truth.

  The truth is, we are alive and can enjoy life without knowing the whole truth.

  The truth is, those who claim to have the truth are often very narcissistic and manipulative.

  The truth is, this idea that you have to know the truth, is nothing but a manufactured need, manufactured by charlatans and manipulators.

  The truth is, this idea that you have to know the truth, is exactly the kind of lure that charlatans use to entrap you in their religious cults.
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  Demon Watchtower Subliminal Images

  by artcritic in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  its a long time since i posted here.

  time is hard to get to do the things you would like.

  some of you may be wondering if the watchtower are still placing demonic images in their publications here is a link judge for yourselves.

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  Island Man

  The whole Watchtower subliminal images conspiracy is mostly rubbish if you ask me. I think your time will be better spent reading up on pareidolia than looking for supposed subliminal images in Watchtower literature.